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Prem
Posted: 01/12/2008 09:55
http://uk.youtube.com/wat...FFMtq5g8N4

'Meditation with brain-monitor, a EEG......the MIND-MIRROR-1. Witnessing.......and beyond witnessing.'

This video is amazing, I love this bridge between science and spirituality....and a brilliant way to decifer between those who talk the talk and those who walk the walk! The real thing from the frauds! Perhaps it can be dished out to all new sannyasins so they don't get duped by all the fake guru's out there looking for innocent disciples! "Excuse me, before you start trying to convince me your the new messiah, could you do a meditation and let me plug you into this!" Ofcourse learning to tell the fake's from the frauds is a valuable lesson, but it's a funny concept! Brilliant, thanks Anand Upale!
Kartar
Posted: 11/02/2009 16:19
And there are quacks who even go on proving God scientifically, and
who are trying to measure states of meditation – as if meditation
can be measured. Whatsoever you can measure will be mind; no-mind
cannot be measured. All your alpha waves, etcetera, are not going to
help. They can only go to a certain extent in the mind. But
meditation begins only where mind ends.


Mind is measurable, because mind is a machine. But no-mind is
immeasurable, it has no limits. So all the nonsense that goes on in
the name of measuring…and people are very much impressed. They are
sitting before very shiny gadgets – it gives an impression of
science – wires attached to the head, to the hands, just like a
cardiogram. They are trying to figure out the inner silence.
It is impossible! Whatsoever you come to record is mind. All waves
are of the mind.

Meditation is wavelessness because it is thoughtlessness. Meditation
cannot be recorded; there can be no cardiogram, there can be no
machine which can record it. It is very elusive, it is very
subjective, it cannot be reduced to an object. But because the
Western mind is very objective, is trained in science, now there
are quacks around who are cashing in on this attraction and this
training.

OSHO
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